Curse

DarkNecrid · Sep 03, 2008, 10:43 PM // 22:43

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

I use it for Guru, because it blocks the popup ads, and the others dont bother me. It loads guru far faster, and the ability to resize the text entry boxes on the fly is amazing.

This is the coolest feature ever.

snaek · Sep 03, 2008, 10:59 PM // 22:59

does anyone else find it funny that if u search "chrome" on google's search engine...
teh browser is not in teh #1 spot? lol

Age · Sep 03, 2008, 11:13 PM // 23:13

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Originally Posted by Tarun

I didn't care much for the browser and I felt like Firefox is faster. Chrome simply delayed displaying the page under it was fully rendered. It's barebones which is why it's so much faster right now. After more features and such get integrated, it'll slow down. Chrome may render fast, but I think this is quite good too:

IE7 on the other hand... You literally have to hold N down to get an accurate result.

How did you get those test results?

Numa Pompilius · Sep 03, 2008, 11:27 PM // 23:27

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Originally Posted by Masao

Chrome = uninstalled for not yet being convenient to use and possibility of being a form of government monitoring.

Every cellphone call you make, every email you send or receive, every landline telephone call abroad, and every post you post are already scanned by the NSA, mostly through what's known as the Echelon system.
Also you can safely assume that any product containing strong encryption which is sold or distributed by an american company, or a company from any country affiliated with the USA, has backdoors or uses encryption which the NSA can easily crack. Because making available strong encryption software without backdoors or which isn't easily crackable by the NSA is illegal.

Basically the NSA doesn't need Chrome to monitor you.

Lord Sojar · Sep 03, 2008, 11:33 PM // 23:33

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

Every cellphone call you make, every email you send or receive, every landline telephone call abroad, and every post you post are already scanned by the NSA, mostly through what's known as the Echelon system.
Also you can safely assume that any product containing strong encryption which is sold or distributed by an american company, or a company from any country affiliated with the USA, has backdoors or uses encryption which the NSA can easily crack. Because making available strong encryption software without backdoors or which isn't easily crackable by the NSA is illegal.

Basically the NSA doesn't need Chrome to monitor you.

Indeed. Google already noted that part of the EULA wasn't valid anyways.

Masao · Sep 04, 2008, 01:10 AM // 01:10

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

Every cellphone call you make, every email you send or receive, every landline telephone call abroad, and every post you post are already scanned by the NSA, mostly through what's known as the Echelon system.
Also you can safely assume that any product containing strong encryption which is sold or distributed by an american company, or a company from any country affiliated with the USA, has backdoors or uses encryption which the NSA can easily crack. Because making available strong encryption software without backdoors or which isn't easily crackable by the NSA is illegal.

Basically the NSA doesn't need Chrome to monitor you.

You're preaching to the choir. I've been invited to NSA recruitment programs for mathematics and judicial representation both.

Although there are dozens of other forms of governmental monitoring through a multitude of agencies, it doesn't mean I'm not going to try to avoid suspect ones.

No need to make a big deal about knowledge common to anyone who's cracked a Tom Clancy book.

Also, three words. Biden, Patriot, Act.

On another note Paragraph 11 was what had every legal professional worried. Now that its been taken out of the EULA, there should be no further need for concern.

Crimson Flame · Sep 04, 2008, 01:12 AM // 01:12

It didn't have me terribly worried. Granted, I'm not a legal professional yet, but give me a year and I will be...in any case, I saw that the author retained copyright so I didn't think too much of it.

Stockholm · Sep 04, 2008, 01:20 AM // 01:20

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

Every cellphone call you make, every email you send or receive, every landline telephone call abroad, and every post you post are already scanned by the NSA, mostly through what's known as the Echelon system.
Also you can safely assume that any product containing strong encryption which is sold or distributed by an american company, or a company from any country affiliated with the USA, has backdoors or uses encryption which the NSA can easily crack. Because making available strong encryption software without backdoors or which isn't easily crackable by the NSA is illegal.

Basically the NSA doesn't need Chrome to monitor you.

No, not when they can get all the information they want from your ISP provider without you even knowing it.

Masao · Sep 04, 2008, 01:20 AM // 01:20

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Originally Posted by Crimson Flame

It didn't have me terribly worried. Granted, I'm not a legal professional yet, but give me a year and I will be...in any case, I saw that the author retained copyright so I didn't think too much of it.

It wasn't so much who had the copyright, but rather the fact that Google would be able to use any information you submitted through the browser for advertising purposes, and could distribute it as they please.

This clause is applicable to some of Google's products, such as the Wikis they own and desktop applications that they distribute, but had no place in an EULA for an open source browser.

Also, you just have to love people who vandalize wiki. I quote:

Quote:

Dennis is founder of google. He is very rich, he has a wealth of $9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 999999999999999 and he love naruto very much.

He is also the richest person in the world.

YEH ! I EAT CHILDREN

DarkNecrid · Sep 04, 2008, 03:03 AM // 03:03

Hey guess what, you can drag tabs from any other browser that has tabs (well I've tried the latest IE, FF3, and Opera anyways) into Chrome, and it'll become a Chrome tab.

Tarun · Sep 04, 2008, 03:38 AM // 03:38

Hey guess what. You can do that with pretty much any browser. :P

Tarun · Sep 04, 2008, 03:40 AM // 03:40

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Originally Posted by Age

How did you get those test results?

I clicked the button to run all tests.

Smurf Minions · Sep 04, 2008, 05:03 PM // 17:03

Hmm, google did just use the EULA of youtube for chrome, what a dumbasses :P

DarkNecrid · Sep 04, 2008, 05:24 PM // 17:24

btw, if anyone has weaker PCs and is having crashes, turn off the Phishing and Malware detection. It uses a lot of RAM it seems, and if you don't have a lot, it'll crash you during Flash videos/intensive games, easy.

Screensaver91 · Sep 05, 2008, 01:33 AM // 01:33

OPERA > Chrome

That is all.

Tarun · Sep 05, 2008, 03:11 AM // 03:11

Seems most tests are saying otherwise. Been reading a lot of things where Firefox 3.1 will be faster than Chrome.

DarkNecrid · Sep 05, 2008, 03:18 AM // 03:18

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Originally Posted by Tarun

Seems most tests are saying otherwise. Been reading a lot of things where Firefox 3.1 will be faster than Chrome.

Is FireFox 3.1 sandboxed and does it get rid of the linear tab model.

If you answer yes to both of these I will use it.

Tarun · Sep 05, 2008, 04:26 AM // 04:26

Not sure about sandboxes (doubt you'd really need that, and there's probably an extension to do it), but with the tabs I have multirow tabs. (Tab Mix Plus extension).

viper11025 · Sep 05, 2008, 05:16 AM // 05:16

Ok, I'm putting my foot in on this.
Don't mind.

My Scores:

FF3- 7/10
1. Plug-ins are amazing at times.
2. Fast.
3. Not too secure, chat options are a pain to use, IRC.
4. Delicious bookmarks, are just plain awful. The automatic catagorizing GETS annoying!!

Chrome- 7.7/10
1. Faster than the others, by a few secounds. I don't really notice.
2. Not very secure, at all. (Tested, was broken into, too easily.)
3. Can't find the plugins...........I know it's in beta. Whatever....Give me more bookmark options.
4. Can't move the bookmarks I need to it.
5. That EULA.

IE8-6.5/10
1. Bookmarks sucks.
2. Plug-ins are a pain.
3. Security issues.
4. SLOOOOOOOOOW
5. Media options are really easy to use, Flash player, Veoh, Youtube, Etc.

Opera- 8.1/10
1. Pretty fast.
2. Secure, better than the others.
3. MY OPERA!!! Bookmarks, syncronize.
4. Ok, not great, plugins.
5. IRC is already usable on it.
6. Needs to be faster...........it loads the text, then images by size.

Until I can move my opera bookmarks to Chrome, and they fix that EULA, forget it. I've got over 150 Bookmarks, I don't plan on losing them.
XD

DarkNecrid · Sep 05, 2008, 05:48 AM // 05:48

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Originally Posted by Tarun

Not sure about sandboxes (doubt you'd really need that, and there's probably an extension to do it), but with the tabs I have multirow tabs. (Tab Mix Plus extension).

Sandboxing provides a massive (massive) security benefit above and beyond anything FF/Opera has (yes, even with NoScript & AdBlock), yes I really do need it and not having to use a sandboxing program just to do it is an amazing benefit especially considering how much resources those can use, and multirow tabs just makes tabs have multiple rows, the linear tab model is where all the tabs run from the same process in a line ("interconnected"), so if one hangs or freezes, it breaks the rest of them and the browser crashes, which is where Chrome's separate tab model comes in handy.

I don't use Chrome for speed (although that's great too), I use it because it's infinitely more secure than FF/Opera and innovated tabs in a way that supports my quad core PC by a buttload, and it handles Javascript in an amazingly great way from a programming standpoint, and it prevents untrusted stuff from still being able to write to your PC unlike every other browser out there. If all FF3.1 is going to do is add speed, then that's great. I don't care, because it's still behind from a security standpoint.